Tuesday, May 25, 2010
Wednesday, May 19, 2010
I Think I Have Figured Out The Root Of My Gambling
Ok, so I am sitting waiting for action today, 1 tabling and I am bored, so I am checking Hockey Cards online.
I decided that this is the root of my gambling, when I was like 6 I started collecting cards and remember thinking there was money in this by the time I was 12 or so, and I used to try to explain to my dad it was profitable. I would never like to buy cards that were already open, I collected a certain group of players but I liked to "pull" them from the pack you know. This was gambling! Sports cards turned me into a gambler!
Man looking at boxes today, I can remember when I was young I would write down a whole list of boxes I would want (and of course never get cause I was a poor kid) but man I could go to town on some hockey cards today! If I had the money I do now back then I would have been like a crack head with those cards....
I gambled at pool too for a while, though I could never had made a living even as a street bum at it, I just liked to gamble, then poker came...
K Neat story huh?
So I have been banging out HU sitgos all fkin month for this "race" promo.
At the beginning I thought I could get to the top tier, then I realized they set it up to where it is literally impossible. So maybe I can get 5k out of it somehow, which is ok I guess....
I dont think I have put enough volume in this month at them anyway, I have tried but it's hard to get action repeatedly, or I sit for 90 minutes without a game then 6 people want to play at one time.... it is weird.
I have managed 504 games for the month 200$ and 400$, I haven't played much cash but I have made a bit playing HU and some scarce 6m which I am trying to avoid after my disasterous downswing.
FTP is letting me run ok, I have been playing 5-10 FR on there the last few days and am up 12 BI just 1-2 tabling... I will be broke on there in a week don't worry.
Here is a neat hand from that
Oh forgot this blog is gay and doesn't let me paste.
Basically, utg with 1550$ limps, SB completes I check BB with A4hh
Flop A A 9 with 2 spades
SB chk Me chk UTG 29$
SB fold Me raise to 100$ utg reraise to 225$ and I call
Turn A - board A A 9 A
I donk out 280 he raises to 750 I ship he calls with Q9.... fun stuff.
One day I will post some pics of my house and stuff, but man that is a lot of work for someone who crawls from my computer to my game chair and ps3 back to my computer to the fridge back to the computer then to sleep....
One day my friends
I decided that this is the root of my gambling, when I was like 6 I started collecting cards and remember thinking there was money in this by the time I was 12 or so, and I used to try to explain to my dad it was profitable. I would never like to buy cards that were already open, I collected a certain group of players but I liked to "pull" them from the pack you know. This was gambling! Sports cards turned me into a gambler!
Man looking at boxes today, I can remember when I was young I would write down a whole list of boxes I would want (and of course never get cause I was a poor kid) but man I could go to town on some hockey cards today! If I had the money I do now back then I would have been like a crack head with those cards....
I gambled at pool too for a while, though I could never had made a living even as a street bum at it, I just liked to gamble, then poker came...
K Neat story huh?
So I have been banging out HU sitgos all fkin month for this "race" promo.
At the beginning I thought I could get to the top tier, then I realized they set it up to where it is literally impossible. So maybe I can get 5k out of it somehow, which is ok I guess....
I dont think I have put enough volume in this month at them anyway, I have tried but it's hard to get action repeatedly, or I sit for 90 minutes without a game then 6 people want to play at one time.... it is weird.
I have managed 504 games for the month 200$ and 400$, I haven't played much cash but I have made a bit playing HU and some scarce 6m which I am trying to avoid after my disasterous downswing.
FTP is letting me run ok, I have been playing 5-10 FR on there the last few days and am up 12 BI just 1-2 tabling... I will be broke on there in a week don't worry.
Here is a neat hand from that
Oh forgot this blog is gay and doesn't let me paste.
Basically, utg with 1550$ limps, SB completes I check BB with A4hh
Flop A A 9 with 2 spades
SB chk Me chk UTG 29$
SB fold Me raise to 100$ utg reraise to 225$ and I call
Turn A - board A A 9 A
I donk out 280 he raises to 750 I ship he calls with Q9.... fun stuff.
One day I will post some pics of my house and stuff, but man that is a lot of work for someone who crawls from my computer to my game chair and ps3 back to my computer to the fridge back to the computer then to sleep....
One day my friends
Monday, May 17, 2010
I know we haven't been updating...

So here's an old screenshot I found from soem HU battles vs jerry. Not sure if I had posted it or not before....if I did oh well.
I wrote half a draft for an actual update but haven't finished it so bear with me. Also have a dude working on a real site...so anyone who wants to have a blog, can be blog with us.
Yes, I am lazy.
Also I boxed today for the very first time in a looooooong time...well ghetto Boxed...sparred with my friend at 1am in a public park...and got a severe ass whooping.
My face and head hurt.
Saturday, May 01, 2010
I've figured out what I've been doing wrong
In order to win at poker, one must play as absolutely transparent as possible, wait to make hands, and never give your opponent[s] the benefit of being creative. if they bet they have it.
I've figured it out.
One problem: It's hard to make pairs.
I've figured it out.
One problem: It's hard to make pairs.
Thursday, April 29, 2010
Still No Pics Of House, But Hey I AM UPDATING
Ok, so I have been on mad tilt lately, I am playing bad, running bad, doing bad, I am mad, it is sad.
So I was on one of those upswings, recovering for the year, and then I have shot off this past week, so I am now trying to tone it down and get it fixed, permanently I hope.
But none the less I am running so far below EV too for the past week. I mentally said as soon as my EV graph goes back to normal (neutral, not up or down but it would have to cross into up slightly) from where it was I was going to put 1000$ of my own money in a tourney on Merge for the forum in celebration, and put a bounty on myself probably, sounds silly, but I was really going to do it, and I was so close to back to neutral on there, was under 10k away but we are a landslide from that now. One day this will happen I hope.
I have decided not to leave my house more than twice a month for leisure purposes (drinking, golf, which golf = drinking) until I have obtained 1$ profit for the year. This should take a while, I have been playing 12 hours a day for the last 4 days, maybe more.... and I am having fun atleast. Enjoying playing again, even though I just spewed off a ton and I am stuck miserably I am happy for some reason.
I am getting fat.... I must fix this too. I am not overweight by any means, but my gut is starting to get there, and it is annoying... Like I should have this deal to where every time I take a quick smoke break, I have to do 20 pushups 20 situps and maybe 20 squats or something, I mean that would add up to like 200 a day, and would be good, but I am so lazy.... Jay seems to be a member of a gym, this is too much work for me, this is his only escape from poker, where as I go out binge drinking, golfing, or to my hockey games. Sadly hockey isn't enough to keep me in shape.
Ummm, I hired a personal assistant to come to my house once or twice a week to cook me some meals to eat on, clean, do laundry, go to the store for me, stuff I am too lazy to do once again, but atleast when she is here, I spend all my time playing poker to not seem like I am lazy, even though I look lazy because I wear sweats with my feet reclined on my desk watching my tv while I play, but hey I am playing so it is beneficial.
The casino like 90 minutes from me just opened the greatest game in the world, it is a 10-20 game with 5k min 5k max and you can buy 75% of the big. This game is sick sick juicy. Only runs the first Monday of the month but there is like 50k on the table and only one competent player plays in it and a couple others who are fairly competent. So now I get to go up there every first Monday play that, stay the night (which I get rooms comped now in a 4 star hotel because I am a pit degen, luckily it is all ultimate holdem not blackjack and I am actually up big on it, I run good, anyone who has ever played ultimate holdem, do NOT bet trips, or you are lacking intelligence towards poker) then the 5-10 game goes on Tuesday so it is actually motivating to go up there when it is just not one day that I get to play.
No other real news... probably a ton of stories I have forgotten about while I haven't been posting, I will try to post and gain back some of our readers, it is a ghost town here I am sure. Definitely when Vegas rolls around Jay and I will keep some day to days going there of the stuff we do that is entertaining (mostly Jay letting every woman know that her ass is nice in his New York New York accent and slang)
So I was on one of those upswings, recovering for the year, and then I have shot off this past week, so I am now trying to tone it down and get it fixed, permanently I hope.
But none the less I am running so far below EV too for the past week. I mentally said as soon as my EV graph goes back to normal (neutral, not up or down but it would have to cross into up slightly) from where it was I was going to put 1000$ of my own money in a tourney on Merge for the forum in celebration, and put a bounty on myself probably, sounds silly, but I was really going to do it, and I was so close to back to neutral on there, was under 10k away but we are a landslide from that now. One day this will happen I hope.
I have decided not to leave my house more than twice a month for leisure purposes (drinking, golf, which golf = drinking) until I have obtained 1$ profit for the year. This should take a while, I have been playing 12 hours a day for the last 4 days, maybe more.... and I am having fun atleast. Enjoying playing again, even though I just spewed off a ton and I am stuck miserably I am happy for some reason.
I am getting fat.... I must fix this too. I am not overweight by any means, but my gut is starting to get there, and it is annoying... Like I should have this deal to where every time I take a quick smoke break, I have to do 20 pushups 20 situps and maybe 20 squats or something, I mean that would add up to like 200 a day, and would be good, but I am so lazy.... Jay seems to be a member of a gym, this is too much work for me, this is his only escape from poker, where as I go out binge drinking, golfing, or to my hockey games. Sadly hockey isn't enough to keep me in shape.
Ummm, I hired a personal assistant to come to my house once or twice a week to cook me some meals to eat on, clean, do laundry, go to the store for me, stuff I am too lazy to do once again, but atleast when she is here, I spend all my time playing poker to not seem like I am lazy, even though I look lazy because I wear sweats with my feet reclined on my desk watching my tv while I play, but hey I am playing so it is beneficial.
The casino like 90 minutes from me just opened the greatest game in the world, it is a 10-20 game with 5k min 5k max and you can buy 75% of the big. This game is sick sick juicy. Only runs the first Monday of the month but there is like 50k on the table and only one competent player plays in it and a couple others who are fairly competent. So now I get to go up there every first Monday play that, stay the night (which I get rooms comped now in a 4 star hotel because I am a pit degen, luckily it is all ultimate holdem not blackjack and I am actually up big on it, I run good, anyone who has ever played ultimate holdem, do NOT bet trips, or you are lacking intelligence towards poker) then the 5-10 game goes on Tuesday so it is actually motivating to go up there when it is just not one day that I get to play.
No other real news... probably a ton of stories I have forgotten about while I haven't been posting, I will try to post and gain back some of our readers, it is a ghost town here I am sure. Definitely when Vegas rolls around Jay and I will keep some day to days going there of the stuff we do that is entertaining (mostly Jay letting every woman know that her ass is nice in his New York New York accent and slang)
Friday, April 16, 2010
A response
This is a blog I wrote in response to a blog written by Hunter "BeachJustice" Bick.
I'd like to apologise beforehand for any grammatical or spelling errors or incoherent writing. I wrote this in notepad while multi-tabling and am too lazy to proof read or re-write anything. Also, I'd like to apologise if the manner of my writing seems angry or annoyed...while some of the things in Hunter's blog
didn't sit well with me, I am far more annoyed at dropping 8k this session. Oh, who am I kidding, the 3 of you who keep up with this blog know very well that I am an eternally angry and annoyed human being. :)
BeachJustice, I would like to welcome you to my blog and hope you stop by whenever you get the urge to read some angry writing from a mean individual. Or a drunk hillbilly (daduweewah)
Please keep in mind this is my opinion. You may agree of disagree, but like everyone with an opinion, I am fairly certain that my opinion is the right one. If you see things differently, feel free to write a rebuttal in the comments section or leave a link there.
So without further adieu:
I used the same format Hunter did. His text is first and my responses follow in Bold.
The term "bumhunter" gets thrown around like crazy these days, and it basically makes no sense at all. Originally the term was coined to describe someone who sits around waiting for heads up action, but refuses to play anyone who is not a total fish. Then it started to mean someone who only plays bad players but not anyone good, so the meaning started applying to more and more people, but the concept remained the same: heads up player who only plays weak players. Some people look down on that, which is their right, but then they bash bumhunters for their high winrate and high earnings by saying they suck at poker because they bumhunt. Alright fine, I don't really agree with that, but at least there's a reasonable thought process behind that argument when it applies only to heads up players.
But now "bumhunter" is being applied liberally to 6max players. How is it even possible to bumhunt at 6max? The very nature of 6max, and the reason I'm getting back into it, is that you simply cannot avoid playing with good players if they are at your table. You have to play pots with them, period. So the answer to that question is, well if there's a fish and 4 regs at the table, then you're bumhunting.
That's just ridiculous, it literally makes no sense.
So what are the criteria for being a 6max bumhunter? Here are the reasons that seem to make up the prevailing "wisdom" and why they are
so ridiculous.
This is just incorrect. First of all, just because you're at a table with another good player does not mean you have to play pots with them. It is possible to go out of your way to not play pots with them...as many "heads up bumhunters" do when they join a 6 max game that is populated by some combination of weak and strong players.
Let's use Hunter's example of 1 fish + 4 regs at a 6max table and our hero takes the 6th seat. He plays 2 orbits, the fish busts, hero then sits out. Four regs continue playing each other, hoping more fish would sit. A fish sits down, hero then sits back in. This is the very definition of bumhunting a 6max game. It does make sense and is absolutely not ridiculous.
#1. They only sit at tables with fish.
First off, why would sitting at a table with 5 other players be a particularly profitable situation? Are we trying to make money at poker or are we here to measure various body parts? I didn't realize that the egos of online poker players have eclipsed their greed. If that's what's happened, then poker just got a lot more profitable.
Secondly, a "fish" on most midstakes tables is someone who's playing a 35 vpip. Thats probably not a profitable style for them, but they are by no means a 60/5 type guy who is bleeding money. Yet even if you make the effort to find tables with one weak player, 80% of your competition is still good thinking players. So if you have a winrate of 3 or 4 BB/100 and are one of the top earners at your limit, despite the fact that everyone tries to find weak players (why else are the waiting lists long when Scout shows up), then you are a bumhunter and suck at poker. The fact is when 80% of your competition are tough, good players and you never have an edge against them, you can't win at 3 BB/100 just by having one fish at your table. This whole train of thought makes absolutely no sense.
I am not exactly sure what Hunters first paragraph is trying to say...why wouldn't sitting with 5 other players be profitable?
Nevertheless, people play for different reasons and maybe some play for ego or a challenge or what not, but many players who are siting in tough games are either pushing small edges over slightly weaker regulars because there are, shocker coming here, no other games available...or they are trying to keep the game alive in the hopes that a weaker player may sit down.
The second paragraph is Hunters idea of what a fish is at midstakes, his idea of the competition, and that even if you game select then you are still supposedly playing tough players. Okay, great...but irrelevant. If you are a bumhunter, it doesn't mean you are bad at poker. Chances are, if you are a bumhunter you may not be as good at poker as someone who isn't a bumhunter but it certainly doesn't mean you can't be better. However, if you go out of your way to play at tables with only complete fish and then stop playing the second the fish leaves, you are a bumhunter! Simple. It is completely irrelevant that there may be good players at the table when you're there.
You are there because the fish is there. Bumhunter, fishhunter, same thing. Again, makes complete sense.
#2. They leave as soon as the fish leaves, and this in turn is bad for games.
Let's get something straight. EVERYONE does this at mid/high stakes. Everytime I play a session, I'll open what looks like a good table from the lobby, only to find the entire table sitting out. Or I'll notice that one of my 12 tables is not running because the fish sat out, so everyone else did too. People don't even wait for their big blind anymore, they just sit out. This is STANDARD, everyone does it, so singling out anyone specific as a bum hunter when they do this is simply ridiculous.
I mean, when Scout leaves the game does everyone keep playing? Of course not, he's driving the action, and he's why everyone is there. This is just how poker works, but suddenly everyone is a bum hunter if they decide to waste their time playing a bunch of other good regulars instead of using that time to find a more profitable table? Some say that you should play an orbit to "keep the game going." Who cares if that one table keeps going or not, there are plenty to choose from, we're online here, its not like we're in a casino where if our table breaks we might have to wait two hours to get another seat.
And how is this bad for the games? A fish leaves, the table breaks. A new fish shows up elsewhere, the table fills up, the waiting list fills up, the fish busts, everyone clears out, and this process repeats itself. This is how its always been, at least since early 2004 when I started playing. And if this is actually somehow bad for the games, why aren't the games dead when everyone behaves in this exact manner, and has for years?
Let's get something straight. NOT EVERYONE does this at mid/high stakes. But yes, it's possible Hunter opens the table finds a table full of regs and bumhunters or super duper game selectors if that's more your alley...and...that is exactly what is wrong with online poker today! What a shocker! I am not sure if this is standard, it may be standard for some people, it may not be standard for others.
Certainly not everyone, as Hunter would have you believe, does this. And guess what, those that do...are...wait for it...BUMHUNTERS! I find it appalling that he says "everyone does it" or it's the "standard"...so because a bunch of people do soemthing, it is acceptable? That's a great theory...why be part of the solution when it's easier being part of the problem? Because everyone does it, right?
Using scout is a great example! Scout, a known losing player, who I am going to assume is well off financially. So this player sits at a 6max 25-50 game that is instantly filled up, this very same player knows he's a losing player and is probably playing for fun, just to have a good time. He burns through 3 buyins and quits. Okay so then the game instantly breaks and all these good regulars quit.
Let's say we had some 5-10 reg watching and maybe he's a weaker player and wanted to take a shot in this 25-50 game. That's an extra buyin to win. Maybe there was a fish, who isn't as loaded as scout, watching and wanted to sit down but got scared when all of the players suddenly sat out to avoid playing each other. That's a buyin. Maybe a fish came 10 minutes too late to find no game available to join because all these regulars think it's the "standard" to quit when a fish does. That's another buyin.
How is a "fish" even supposed to sit down when there aren't games going? In order for a fish to sit, there needs to be a game available to sit in! How is a game supposed to go if everyone decides to wait till a fish shows up? Apparently, I'm really playing at the wrong times because I don't remember the last time I saw a complete fish just sitting and waiting for action...other than bumhunters at heads
up tables.
I think Hunter may still think it is 2004. But it's not. It's 2010. Games are much tougher, fish are scarce. You can't pull up any site and find a fish at every table or loads of tables to join. For example, opening fulltilt I see 15 full 6max games going...out of 96k people online! That's 90 occupied seats. And I didn't bother to check how many are multitabling 6 or 8 of those 15 games. The fact is, the mid/high stakes player pools are shrinking, at least on us sites and not trying to start games or keep them going to welcome recreational players HURTS the games.
Just because the games aren't completely dead, doesn't mean that they aren't dying or at the very least could be better than they are.
#3. They don't help start new tables.
This one is just flailing, here's why. Everyone knows one of the easiest ways to get a seat with a fish is to start a new table, this is online 6max poker 101. Fish don't sign up for waiting lists, they grab the first seat they see. As a result, starting a new table gets them to sit with you, this is basic obvious stuff. So wouldn't it stand to reason that any "bumhunter" would be starting lots of new tables? The argument against that is they "hate playing shorthanded or heads up."
Maybe they can't handle a HU match against a good player while playing 12 tables? They know that, but they also know they are walking away from a potentially +EV spot if a fish shows up. So how exactly are they bumhunting when they pass up this opportunity?I might be one of the few people who often welcomes heads up action when the table dies against a regular, simply because I've played so much HU that I think I have a HU edge when we both have 12 6max tables going. But the fact is if I'm in a couple tough spots elsewhere, its often better to just close the HU table so I can focus on the big-pot decisions. But when someone plays 3 HU hands against me and
then quits, do I think less of him as a person? Do I lose respect for his 6max game?
Do I rush to 2+2 to call him out? Of course not, he's making the best EV decision for his current situation and doesn't want to play heads up or 3 handed while he has a bunch other tables open. How is this not common sense? Why is this such a big deal?
Here's the final reason this take is so ridiculous. Since when were there a shortage of mid-stakes games going on Stars and FTP? Why is everyone all of a sudden so concerned about starting new tables? Why does anyone care about this? Until you get to $10/$20 there are plenty of games going, and new tables fill up quickly. I guess I didn't get the memo that outlined that as a professional poker, one of my obligations is to play with other professionals to start new tables because the 150 already sitting there aren't enough.
Here, I am in agreement with Hunter. Fish don't join lists. The easiest way to get a fish is to start a new table. However, where we disagree is that bumhunters start new tables or games. It is more often than not that they only join a table when a fish joins. I can't begin to count the number of times a reg has set at a table for hours waiting for action. A bad player with 20bb shows up, doubles through the regular once or twice and then the table instantly fills with regulars. 6max bumhunting 101.
Paragraph 2...Hunter plays all players unless he's busy. Totally fine. Nobody plays heads up when they have 12 6max games going. Moving on.
Why does anyone care about starting new games? Other than the obvious need to have games going?
5-10 Games going while I am writing this: Fulltilt: 96k people online, 15 games going. Stars: 170k people online, 10 games going. If you look at smaller sites, 5k people online, 1 game going. And all of this is including shallow and cap games. How in the world is this an abundance of games? What am I missing here?
And of course no says you have to sit and play anyone or help start a game or anything. Hell, feel free to be a parasite and join the game created by the two regulars who spent an hour playing each other heads up hoping that a fish would join. You should immediately run to grab a seat in this game, quickly stack the fish, then leave as fast possible until another fish joins. But you are not a
bumhunter...oh, wait a minute...
#4. They only buy in for enough to cover the fish.
Again, this is standard, smart gambling. Barry Greenstein, in his book "Ace on the River," page 96 said this: "If you are serious about making money, don't put yourself in situations where you can lose a lot and win a little." So if $10/$20 is above your bankroll, but there's a fish with $1k on the table, should you not sit because you aren't comfortable putting $2k on the table or should you sit with $1100 to cover the fish? No one's short-stacking for 20bbs to cover another short-stacking fish, that's just ridiculous and its not the issue here. If the fish has $1k on this table and you buy-in for $2k, the most you can win from the fish is $1k, but you can lose $2k to a good player. That's not a very good option in general, especially if the limit is higher than your normal game. So why not put in enough to cover the fish while also protecting your bankroll? Since when did everyone hate 50bb stacks so much? They don't ruin games like 20bb shortstackers do. What exactly is the problem here.
This is fine. People can buy in for whatever they want if they're scared. Scared money is welcome too...as long as it's in play.
Conclusion
I just think some of Hunters views are simply incorrect and some of the things he talks about are detrimental to the longevity of this game we love to hate.
This has already been a long enough and very repetitive blog so I'm going to wrap this up here. Judge for yourselves.
I'd like to apologise beforehand for any grammatical or spelling errors or incoherent writing. I wrote this in notepad while multi-tabling and am too lazy to proof read or re-write anything. Also, I'd like to apologise if the manner of my writing seems angry or annoyed...while some of the things in Hunter's blog
didn't sit well with me, I am far more annoyed at dropping 8k this session. Oh, who am I kidding, the 3 of you who keep up with this blog know very well that I am an eternally angry and annoyed human being. :)
BeachJustice, I would like to welcome you to my blog and hope you stop by whenever you get the urge to read some angry writing from a mean individual. Or a drunk hillbilly (daduweewah)
Please keep in mind this is my opinion. You may agree of disagree, but like everyone with an opinion, I am fairly certain that my opinion is the right one. If you see things differently, feel free to write a rebuttal in the comments section or leave a link there.
So without further adieu:
I used the same format Hunter did. His text is first and my responses follow in Bold.
The term "bumhunter" gets thrown around like crazy these days, and it basically makes no sense at all. Originally the term was coined to describe someone who sits around waiting for heads up action, but refuses to play anyone who is not a total fish. Then it started to mean someone who only plays bad players but not anyone good, so the meaning started applying to more and more people, but the concept remained the same: heads up player who only plays weak players. Some people look down on that, which is their right, but then they bash bumhunters for their high winrate and high earnings by saying they suck at poker because they bumhunt. Alright fine, I don't really agree with that, but at least there's a reasonable thought process behind that argument when it applies only to heads up players.
But now "bumhunter" is being applied liberally to 6max players. How is it even possible to bumhunt at 6max? The very nature of 6max, and the reason I'm getting back into it, is that you simply cannot avoid playing with good players if they are at your table. You have to play pots with them, period. So the answer to that question is, well if there's a fish and 4 regs at the table, then you're bumhunting.
That's just ridiculous, it literally makes no sense.
So what are the criteria for being a 6max bumhunter? Here are the reasons that seem to make up the prevailing "wisdom" and why they are
so ridiculous.
This is just incorrect. First of all, just because you're at a table with another good player does not mean you have to play pots with them. It is possible to go out of your way to not play pots with them...as many "heads up bumhunters" do when they join a 6 max game that is populated by some combination of weak and strong players.
Let's use Hunter's example of 1 fish + 4 regs at a 6max table and our hero takes the 6th seat. He plays 2 orbits, the fish busts, hero then sits out. Four regs continue playing each other, hoping more fish would sit. A fish sits down, hero then sits back in. This is the very definition of bumhunting a 6max game. It does make sense and is absolutely not ridiculous.
#1. They only sit at tables with fish.
First off, why would sitting at a table with 5 other players be a particularly profitable situation? Are we trying to make money at poker or are we here to measure various body parts? I didn't realize that the egos of online poker players have eclipsed their greed. If that's what's happened, then poker just got a lot more profitable.
Secondly, a "fish" on most midstakes tables is someone who's playing a 35 vpip. Thats probably not a profitable style for them, but they are by no means a 60/5 type guy who is bleeding money. Yet even if you make the effort to find tables with one weak player, 80% of your competition is still good thinking players. So if you have a winrate of 3 or 4 BB/100 and are one of the top earners at your limit, despite the fact that everyone tries to find weak players (why else are the waiting lists long when Scout shows up), then you are a bumhunter and suck at poker. The fact is when 80% of your competition are tough, good players and you never have an edge against them, you can't win at 3 BB/100 just by having one fish at your table. This whole train of thought makes absolutely no sense.
I am not exactly sure what Hunters first paragraph is trying to say...why wouldn't sitting with 5 other players be profitable?
Nevertheless, people play for different reasons and maybe some play for ego or a challenge or what not, but many players who are siting in tough games are either pushing small edges over slightly weaker regulars because there are, shocker coming here, no other games available...or they are trying to keep the game alive in the hopes that a weaker player may sit down.
The second paragraph is Hunters idea of what a fish is at midstakes, his idea of the competition, and that even if you game select then you are still supposedly playing tough players. Okay, great...but irrelevant. If you are a bumhunter, it doesn't mean you are bad at poker. Chances are, if you are a bumhunter you may not be as good at poker as someone who isn't a bumhunter but it certainly doesn't mean you can't be better. However, if you go out of your way to play at tables with only complete fish and then stop playing the second the fish leaves, you are a bumhunter! Simple. It is completely irrelevant that there may be good players at the table when you're there.
You are there because the fish is there. Bumhunter, fishhunter, same thing. Again, makes complete sense.
#2. They leave as soon as the fish leaves, and this in turn is bad for games.
Let's get something straight. EVERYONE does this at mid/high stakes. Everytime I play a session, I'll open what looks like a good table from the lobby, only to find the entire table sitting out. Or I'll notice that one of my 12 tables is not running because the fish sat out, so everyone else did too. People don't even wait for their big blind anymore, they just sit out. This is STANDARD, everyone does it, so singling out anyone specific as a bum hunter when they do this is simply ridiculous.
I mean, when Scout leaves the game does everyone keep playing? Of course not, he's driving the action, and he's why everyone is there. This is just how poker works, but suddenly everyone is a bum hunter if they decide to waste their time playing a bunch of other good regulars instead of using that time to find a more profitable table? Some say that you should play an orbit to "keep the game going." Who cares if that one table keeps going or not, there are plenty to choose from, we're online here, its not like we're in a casino where if our table breaks we might have to wait two hours to get another seat.
And how is this bad for the games? A fish leaves, the table breaks. A new fish shows up elsewhere, the table fills up, the waiting list fills up, the fish busts, everyone clears out, and this process repeats itself. This is how its always been, at least since early 2004 when I started playing. And if this is actually somehow bad for the games, why aren't the games dead when everyone behaves in this exact manner, and has for years?
Let's get something straight. NOT EVERYONE does this at mid/high stakes. But yes, it's possible Hunter opens the table finds a table full of regs and bumhunters or super duper game selectors if that's more your alley...and...that is exactly what is wrong with online poker today! What a shocker! I am not sure if this is standard, it may be standard for some people, it may not be standard for others.
Certainly not everyone, as Hunter would have you believe, does this. And guess what, those that do...are...wait for it...BUMHUNTERS! I find it appalling that he says "everyone does it" or it's the "standard"...so because a bunch of people do soemthing, it is acceptable? That's a great theory...why be part of the solution when it's easier being part of the problem? Because everyone does it, right?
Using scout is a great example! Scout, a known losing player, who I am going to assume is well off financially. So this player sits at a 6max 25-50 game that is instantly filled up, this very same player knows he's a losing player and is probably playing for fun, just to have a good time. He burns through 3 buyins and quits. Okay so then the game instantly breaks and all these good regulars quit.
Let's say we had some 5-10 reg watching and maybe he's a weaker player and wanted to take a shot in this 25-50 game. That's an extra buyin to win. Maybe there was a fish, who isn't as loaded as scout, watching and wanted to sit down but got scared when all of the players suddenly sat out to avoid playing each other. That's a buyin. Maybe a fish came 10 minutes too late to find no game available to join because all these regulars think it's the "standard" to quit when a fish does. That's another buyin.
How is a "fish" even supposed to sit down when there aren't games going? In order for a fish to sit, there needs to be a game available to sit in! How is a game supposed to go if everyone decides to wait till a fish shows up? Apparently, I'm really playing at the wrong times because I don't remember the last time I saw a complete fish just sitting and waiting for action...other than bumhunters at heads
up tables.
I think Hunter may still think it is 2004. But it's not. It's 2010. Games are much tougher, fish are scarce. You can't pull up any site and find a fish at every table or loads of tables to join. For example, opening fulltilt I see 15 full 6max games going...out of 96k people online! That's 90 occupied seats. And I didn't bother to check how many are multitabling 6 or 8 of those 15 games. The fact is, the mid/high stakes player pools are shrinking, at least on us sites and not trying to start games or keep them going to welcome recreational players HURTS the games.
Just because the games aren't completely dead, doesn't mean that they aren't dying or at the very least could be better than they are.
#3. They don't help start new tables.
This one is just flailing, here's why. Everyone knows one of the easiest ways to get a seat with a fish is to start a new table, this is online 6max poker 101. Fish don't sign up for waiting lists, they grab the first seat they see. As a result, starting a new table gets them to sit with you, this is basic obvious stuff. So wouldn't it stand to reason that any "bumhunter" would be starting lots of new tables? The argument against that is they "hate playing shorthanded or heads up."
Maybe they can't handle a HU match against a good player while playing 12 tables? They know that, but they also know they are walking away from a potentially +EV spot if a fish shows up. So how exactly are they bumhunting when they pass up this opportunity?I might be one of the few people who often welcomes heads up action when the table dies against a regular, simply because I've played so much HU that I think I have a HU edge when we both have 12 6max tables going. But the fact is if I'm in a couple tough spots elsewhere, its often better to just close the HU table so I can focus on the big-pot decisions. But when someone plays 3 HU hands against me and
then quits, do I think less of him as a person? Do I lose respect for his 6max game?
Do I rush to 2+2 to call him out? Of course not, he's making the best EV decision for his current situation and doesn't want to play heads up or 3 handed while he has a bunch other tables open. How is this not common sense? Why is this such a big deal?
Here's the final reason this take is so ridiculous. Since when were there a shortage of mid-stakes games going on Stars and FTP? Why is everyone all of a sudden so concerned about starting new tables? Why does anyone care about this? Until you get to $10/$20 there are plenty of games going, and new tables fill up quickly. I guess I didn't get the memo that outlined that as a professional poker, one of my obligations is to play with other professionals to start new tables because the 150 already sitting there aren't enough.
Here, I am in agreement with Hunter. Fish don't join lists. The easiest way to get a fish is to start a new table. However, where we disagree is that bumhunters start new tables or games. It is more often than not that they only join a table when a fish joins. I can't begin to count the number of times a reg has set at a table for hours waiting for action. A bad player with 20bb shows up, doubles through the regular once or twice and then the table instantly fills with regulars. 6max bumhunting 101.
Paragraph 2...Hunter plays all players unless he's busy. Totally fine. Nobody plays heads up when they have 12 6max games going. Moving on.
Why does anyone care about starting new games? Other than the obvious need to have games going?
5-10 Games going while I am writing this: Fulltilt: 96k people online, 15 games going. Stars: 170k people online, 10 games going. If you look at smaller sites, 5k people online, 1 game going. And all of this is including shallow and cap games. How in the world is this an abundance of games? What am I missing here?
And of course no says you have to sit and play anyone or help start a game or anything. Hell, feel free to be a parasite and join the game created by the two regulars who spent an hour playing each other heads up hoping that a fish would join. You should immediately run to grab a seat in this game, quickly stack the fish, then leave as fast possible until another fish joins. But you are not a
bumhunter...oh, wait a minute...
#4. They only buy in for enough to cover the fish.
Again, this is standard, smart gambling. Barry Greenstein, in his book "Ace on the River," page 96 said this: "If you are serious about making money, don't put yourself in situations where you can lose a lot and win a little." So if $10/$20 is above your bankroll, but there's a fish with $1k on the table, should you not sit because you aren't comfortable putting $2k on the table or should you sit with $1100 to cover the fish? No one's short-stacking for 20bbs to cover another short-stacking fish, that's just ridiculous and its not the issue here. If the fish has $1k on this table and you buy-in for $2k, the most you can win from the fish is $1k, but you can lose $2k to a good player. That's not a very good option in general, especially if the limit is higher than your normal game. So why not put in enough to cover the fish while also protecting your bankroll? Since when did everyone hate 50bb stacks so much? They don't ruin games like 20bb shortstackers do. What exactly is the problem here.
This is fine. People can buy in for whatever they want if they're scared. Scared money is welcome too...as long as it's in play.
Conclusion
I just think some of Hunters views are simply incorrect and some of the things he talks about are detrimental to the longevity of this game we love to hate.
This has already been a long enough and very repetitive blog so I'm going to wrap this up here. Judge for yourselves.
Thursday, April 15, 2010
Since I'm playing poker again...
I may as well whine about it.
And we all know whining is fun, but the following blog full of ridiculous whining is justified:
Holy shit. I am 4 or 5 hours in to one of the most ridiculous sessions I have played this year...and there have been more than a few. I am currently stuck around 6300$ and it doesn't feel too bad considering I was stuck around 23k palying 10-20.
There are many many ways you can run bad. You can get sucked out on, coolered, whatever....but if you're like me, you can run into one of the most aggressive donks I have ever seen, while they are on a super get smashed in the face with the deck five times over and get blessed by god, jesus, allah, jehova, buddah and whatever else mythical super natural power you or anyone else has ever believed in.
How's that for a run on sentence? I'nm still currently 3 tabling so deal with it.
Anyway back to this insane pit of fire I threw myself in...everybody knows I play as many hands as humanly possible and I could not make a pair or a draw to save my life. Okay, that's a lie, i made a a FEW, very few pairs...but then the board ran off horrendously and I had to fold. Or I would call and get shown a better hand. It was sickening. It was the epitome of a sick heater.
I was just getting 3bet and potted on non stop and had no hands to combat with. I was stuck like 14k at 10-20 HU and like 9 at 6max. The game was so ridiculous, and I was so card dead, I jammed 8's preflop for 5k. I ended up playing like a 16k pot all in preflop with kings vs queens which held and was the begining of my rally.
The whole session was pretty annoying. I am rusty and out of practice playng 4 different stkaes with 2 heads up and one being a short stack while the other is insanely deep...yada yada...need to play more poker to be in game form. Add in that I had to chase around one of our newly merged in leaches and this was a complete catastrophe.
Speaking of this leach...this complete Ahole, in a 6max game, where the whole table is getting murdered by a crazy fish, tries to get the fish to play him heads up. All because the fish was simultaneously playing me heads up...nevermind that I was down like 10k to him at that point...the audacity of these people. This is why there should be a KOTH system so that these people can't even sit at a HU table. or at the very least an option to have Brock Lesnar punch them in the face whenever they do something so classless.
I will be writing a more serious blog on on these matters very soon.
So anyway, here we are...stuck 6k and 1 tabling. Cause when the huge fish leaves...the games break. SURPRISE!
Today reminded me of this time last year...some major fish showed up and start multi tabling the 5-10 6max games and literally destroyed everyone while on the sickest heater. I remember him beating dudu and I for a combined 20k or something one day. He was just on fire...and with our volatile stiles, it was inevitable. I remember dudu figuratively scratching his head on AIM, telling me that maybe this guy wasn't a fish and me laughing at him. This went on for 3-4 days...until...another surprise...heater ended, profit lost, and never heard from again. I think 3up took 20 off him or something...whatever it doesn't matter. What matters is, I'm annoyed I have to run into such infernos every once in a while and then work so hard to get my money back before it is given away to bumhunters...I think i'd almost rather lose to people no one else wants to play...that way I have the option of playing them anytime I want.
And I just 3 outed someone, so all is well again. Only down 4k. It's a win by my standards.
And we all know whining is fun, but the following blog full of ridiculous whining is justified:
Holy shit. I am 4 or 5 hours in to one of the most ridiculous sessions I have played this year...and there have been more than a few. I am currently stuck around 6300$ and it doesn't feel too bad considering I was stuck around 23k palying 10-20.
There are many many ways you can run bad. You can get sucked out on, coolered, whatever....but if you're like me, you can run into one of the most aggressive donks I have ever seen, while they are on a super get smashed in the face with the deck five times over and get blessed by god, jesus, allah, jehova, buddah and whatever else mythical super natural power you or anyone else has ever believed in.
How's that for a run on sentence? I'nm still currently 3 tabling so deal with it.
Anyway back to this insane pit of fire I threw myself in...everybody knows I play as many hands as humanly possible and I could not make a pair or a draw to save my life. Okay, that's a lie, i made a a FEW, very few pairs...but then the board ran off horrendously and I had to fold. Or I would call and get shown a better hand. It was sickening. It was the epitome of a sick heater.
I was just getting 3bet and potted on non stop and had no hands to combat with. I was stuck like 14k at 10-20 HU and like 9 at 6max. The game was so ridiculous, and I was so card dead, I jammed 8's preflop for 5k. I ended up playing like a 16k pot all in preflop with kings vs queens which held and was the begining of my rally.
The whole session was pretty annoying. I am rusty and out of practice playng 4 different stkaes with 2 heads up and one being a short stack while the other is insanely deep...yada yada...need to play more poker to be in game form. Add in that I had to chase around one of our newly merged in leaches and this was a complete catastrophe.
Speaking of this leach...this complete Ahole, in a 6max game, where the whole table is getting murdered by a crazy fish, tries to get the fish to play him heads up. All because the fish was simultaneously playing me heads up...nevermind that I was down like 10k to him at that point...the audacity of these people. This is why there should be a KOTH system so that these people can't even sit at a HU table. or at the very least an option to have Brock Lesnar punch them in the face whenever they do something so classless.
I will be writing a more serious blog on on these matters very soon.
So anyway, here we are...stuck 6k and 1 tabling. Cause when the huge fish leaves...the games break. SURPRISE!
Today reminded me of this time last year...some major fish showed up and start multi tabling the 5-10 6max games and literally destroyed everyone while on the sickest heater. I remember him beating dudu and I for a combined 20k or something one day. He was just on fire...and with our volatile stiles, it was inevitable. I remember dudu figuratively scratching his head on AIM, telling me that maybe this guy wasn't a fish and me laughing at him. This went on for 3-4 days...until...another surprise...heater ended, profit lost, and never heard from again. I think 3up took 20 off him or something...whatever it doesn't matter. What matters is, I'm annoyed I have to run into such infernos every once in a while and then work so hard to get my money back before it is given away to bumhunters...I think i'd almost rather lose to people no one else wants to play...that way I have the option of playing them anytime I want.
And I just 3 outed someone, so all is well again. Only down 4k. It's a win by my standards.
Monday, April 12, 2010
The only time 3up has ever said anything smart
I remember many years ago, a very tired Jay and very tired 3up were sitting around at 3am talking poker on aim and why we are so terrible at it and, for the first and only time in his life, 3up said something smart:
"To be any good at this game, you have to realize you suck."
Truer words have never been spoken.
But like with anything, over time we evolve, adjust, learn, and grow:
To be any good at this game, you have to knowingly, at some point in your life, play against someone who is so much better than you, you can't even understand the plays they are making.
That's why 3up and dudu suck. They will never admit they have ever played anyone who's better than them...forget about anyone who's ever owned their soul on every street!
Just ask them. F'n ego maniacs! =]
Also, it's 2am, and I want to sleep but I am at 3 tables with dumb fish. One of them is a huge Ahole to boot. How can I sleep?
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Ok, I feel like rambling randomly for a little while since 3 tabling bores the hell out of me.
Jesus christ, they are so bad. I fold TP on an A high board after a bet and a call and they check the river down to chop w Q high.
There's this one fish from china who is insanely bad but keeps having it and playing terrible so I pay off.
After playing for a while in real games on the majors, it's amusing how truly bad the winning regs are on smaller sites. Majors was the right word since it's like going from the MLB to like a recreational softball league with underhanded pitching and a 72 year old grandmother at first base.
Hit n runs. <3
You know what sucks? When donks give my money to other donks that leave the table. I don't much like that.
Misread hand, cost me $60. Wee.
Just made a mistake.
Like assholes, there are 2 types of haters. Funny haters who hate for shits n giggles, really aren't jealous of anything, and could give 2 shits about the success of others and just worry about their own shit.
And then there are people who are truly jealous and hate becaue of it. Or they hate because they feel someone is undeserving.
Sometimes these haters come in the form of closet haters - the worst kind of hater. Closet haters don't openly hate but are twice as jealous as open haters. They never miss an oppertunity to mention someones success, talent, wealth, whatever...and they always whine and bitch about their own misfortune...no matter how successful they are/arent.
I forgot how good Godsmack is.
3up just signed on, so I no longer have to entertain myself by writing this non sense.
"To be any good at this game, you have to realize you suck."
Truer words have never been spoken.
But like with anything, over time we evolve, adjust, learn, and grow:
To be any good at this game, you have to knowingly, at some point in your life, play against someone who is so much better than you, you can't even understand the plays they are making.
That's why 3up and dudu suck. They will never admit they have ever played anyone who's better than them...forget about anyone who's ever owned their soul on every street!
Just ask them. F'n ego maniacs! =]
Also, it's 2am, and I want to sleep but I am at 3 tables with dumb fish. One of them is a huge Ahole to boot. How can I sleep?
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Ok, I feel like rambling randomly for a little while since 3 tabling bores the hell out of me.
Jesus christ, they are so bad. I fold TP on an A high board after a bet and a call and they check the river down to chop w Q high.
There's this one fish from china who is insanely bad but keeps having it and playing terrible so I pay off.
After playing for a while in real games on the majors, it's amusing how truly bad the winning regs are on smaller sites. Majors was the right word since it's like going from the MLB to like a recreational softball league with underhanded pitching and a 72 year old grandmother at first base.
Hit n runs. <3
You know what sucks? When donks give my money to other donks that leave the table. I don't much like that.
Misread hand, cost me $60. Wee.
Just made a mistake.
Like assholes, there are 2 types of haters. Funny haters who hate for shits n giggles, really aren't jealous of anything, and could give 2 shits about the success of others and just worry about their own shit.
And then there are people who are truly jealous and hate becaue of it. Or they hate because they feel someone is undeserving.
Sometimes these haters come in the form of closet haters - the worst kind of hater. Closet haters don't openly hate but are twice as jealous as open haters. They never miss an oppertunity to mention someones success, talent, wealth, whatever...and they always whine and bitch about their own misfortune...no matter how successful they are/arent.
I forgot how good Godsmack is.
3up just signed on, so I no longer have to entertain myself by writing this non sense.
Sunday, April 11, 2010
Running bad.
Playing meh...but running mehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Lost 2500ish playing 1-2 through 3-6.
Nearly lost 3500.
Almost lost 10buyins playing 1-2HU.
This is cool. I play poker 2x a month and lose, 5-6k at a time.
More later, now bust a shortstack and sleeep.
Lost 2500ish playing 1-2 through 3-6.
Nearly lost 3500.
Almost lost 10buyins playing 1-2HU.
This is cool. I play poker 2x a month and lose, 5-6k at a time.
More later, now bust a shortstack and sleeep.
Thursday, April 01, 2010
Not gonna lie....
I was like in the midst of taking pictures of the house, so I could update my side of the blog, but I got reallllly lazy... maybe later. mayyyybe later
Wednesday, March 31, 2010
Live blogging:
Play by play updates for play by player readers:
7:35ish am mark: We river the nut flush and check raise overbet ship it. A straight flush calls us.
7:45ish am: We call a small 3bet with KJ from a bad player, who is coincidentally a big winner over a huge sample somehow. The flop comes K9x with 2 clubs. he plays like shit, we lose nearly the minimum by checking back the river and laughing at K9.
7:53am: wWe extract the thinnest value possible with a hand that is only called by a better hand yet somehow holds up at showdown. It pays to be an idiot
8:00 am: We do something stupid.
8:10 am: We are playing way too many hands and we're deep. We're asking someone to stack us for 200bb.
8:15 am: We value own ourselves. Take a $20 and light it on fire.
8:17am: For the damn fksdfgsifaugh 3rd time today someone turns a set/boat when we flopped trips/2pr and we get owned.
8:18am: We punch our desk and yell curses because we suck and run bad. We remind ourselves that we call 3bets and flop bets all the time to get that highly sought after yet very illusive turned set and it's just not fair.
8:19am We whine some more about how the universe hates us and we're now stuck 4k.
8:22am We flop a set and get rivered to lose a small pot. We are annoyed.
8:27am: We muck pocket Queens preflop. We think it may have been a bad fold
8:33am We get sat out with the situational nuts because FTP is a shitty site and slam our fist on the desk. Our hand now hurts.
8:35 We stack some fish.
8:36 Since we do not own the leatherass devcie known as a gatoraid bottle, we sit out to urinate.
8:38 We talk around the house cursing.
8:40 We are annoyed that out of the 6 tables we are playing, only one table has one real total non multitabling fish. But we are pleased that there are weak italians to donate the 240k they are up?!!?! WTF?
8:42 We play badly. cost ourselevs $200.
8:43: Life is bad
8:44 We 4bet A5o, no good will come of this.
8:45 We open 78o UTG. No good will come of this either.
8:50 We realize we are allowed to listen to music when we play the pokers and wonder why we havent been
8:51 50cent tells me im a gangsta
8:52 50 seems like he knows what he's talking about, I 4bet A8hh, win pot. Fist pump. Okay, didn't really fist pump but so what?
8:55 We flop a flush and get it in vs the nut flush. YAY! WTF! We consider tilting, think otherwise of it.
8:56 Something happens but I forget what. It couldn't have been very good.
8:59 We flop top 2, the worst card in the deck turns. We chop, I'm considering this a win.
9:00am We consider ftp despises us.
9:16 We confirm the above when we get involved in a pot with K9 and river 2 pair vs an italian and stack off for 200bb by talking ourselves into he cant possibly play AK this bad......it ahs to be 3 kings or nothing...sdagfafadjfkda. Whatever, my fault. Should have saved $900. Should have vbet river smaller and saved another 150ish. Should have been born smart. Shoulda, coulda. Stuck 5k. Sitting out.
9:20 Walked around the house. Cursed a lot.
9:25 Sat in.
9:26 Accidentally donk posted blind+sb. asdghaJKDGJ!
9:27 MAD AT SELF FOR NOT FOLDING WHEN OBV BEATING NOTHING
9:30 Don't know how to win.
9:42 I do something really really really really really really dumb.
9:47 I 3bet air, they call, I 3bet aces they fold. I'm on tilt.
10:23 WTF am I doing? Stuck 6k.
10:27 Folded baby flush on 7high board after being c/r'd on river.Gonna quit soon.
1045: people don't fold AJo to me from the sb in 4bet pots. Why do they walk me everytime I have aces? i don't get it. someone help.
1055: I am not playing bad enough to be stuck 7buyins!!!!!!! 4 maybe. 7 no
11:00 In a 3bet pot 3 way pot I flop top set, turn is ofc worst card in deck and i bet/fold.
11:01 Very next hand I get kings, it comes ATTss, i lose the minimum to a turned straight, rivered flush.
11:03 Kings walked
11:05: I get it in Ak vs AQ and hold. Stuck 6.
11:06: I make an excellent 5bet with AQ.
11:09 I flop a boat with 89 on 889dd, it gets checked around, they check fold turn.
11:11 I 3bet Aces, it comes A9T, chk chk, he check folds brick turn.
11:18 I flopped TP+2nutflush draw 3ways, turned top 2 and managed to get it in!!111....too bad it was vs a set! FML but i riv the flush so shipitholla
11:19 I'm tired.
11:22 All I feel is pain all I see is rain
11:25 Hem says I'm calling too much pf. Wonder if they'll notice if i Nit up.
11:30 DIDNT I SAY I WASNT GOING TO PLAY LONG SESSIONS ANYMORE AND QUIT AFTER 4 BUYINS?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? <---------------------------------------------!!!!!!!!!
11:31 I hate my life
11:32 Busta Rhymes is awful
11:33 I play a hand terrible.
11:40 This is getting unreal. I 4bet AA pf, 64ss calls The flop comes A95cc, I lose a 100bb pot.How is this possible? If I didn't suck out with that flush vs set, I'd not have won a significant pot since AK vs AQ. I don't get it, I obv play terrible, but how do I play this terrible?
12:20 Tilt. -10k. Victory.
7:35ish am mark: We river the nut flush and check raise overbet ship it. A straight flush calls us.
7:45ish am: We call a small 3bet with KJ from a bad player, who is coincidentally a big winner over a huge sample somehow. The flop comes K9x with 2 clubs. he plays like shit, we lose nearly the minimum by checking back the river and laughing at K9.
7:53am: wWe extract the thinnest value possible with a hand that is only called by a better hand yet somehow holds up at showdown. It pays to be an idiot
8:00 am: We do something stupid.
8:10 am: We are playing way too many hands and we're deep. We're asking someone to stack us for 200bb.
8:15 am: We value own ourselves. Take a $20 and light it on fire.
8:17am: For the damn fksdfgsifaugh 3rd time today someone turns a set/boat when we flopped trips/2pr and we get owned.
8:18am: We punch our desk and yell curses because we suck and run bad. We remind ourselves that we call 3bets and flop bets all the time to get that highly sought after yet very illusive turned set and it's just not fair.
8:19am We whine some more about how the universe hates us and we're now stuck 4k.
8:22am We flop a set and get rivered to lose a small pot. We are annoyed.
8:27am: We muck pocket Queens preflop. We think it may have been a bad fold
8:33am We get sat out with the situational nuts because FTP is a shitty site and slam our fist on the desk. Our hand now hurts.
8:35 We stack some fish.
8:36 Since we do not own the leatherass devcie known as a gatoraid bottle, we sit out to urinate.
8:38 We talk around the house cursing.
8:40 We are annoyed that out of the 6 tables we are playing, only one table has one real total non multitabling fish. But we are pleased that there are weak italians to donate the 240k they are up?!!?! WTF?
8:42 We play badly. cost ourselevs $200.
8:43: Life is bad
8:44 We 4bet A5o, no good will come of this.
8:45 We open 78o UTG. No good will come of this either.
8:50 We realize we are allowed to listen to music when we play the pokers and wonder why we havent been
8:51 50cent tells me im a gangsta
8:52 50 seems like he knows what he's talking about, I 4bet A8hh, win pot. Fist pump. Okay, didn't really fist pump but so what?
8:55 We flop a flush and get it in vs the nut flush. YAY! WTF! We consider tilting, think otherwise of it.
8:56 Something happens but I forget what. It couldn't have been very good.
8:59 We flop top 2, the worst card in the deck turns. We chop, I'm considering this a win.
9:00am We consider ftp despises us.
9:16 We confirm the above when we get involved in a pot with K9 and river 2 pair vs an italian and stack off for 200bb by talking ourselves into he cant possibly play AK this bad......it ahs to be 3 kings or nothing...sdagfafadjfkda. Whatever, my fault. Should have saved $900. Should have vbet river smaller and saved another 150ish. Should have been born smart. Shoulda, coulda. Stuck 5k. Sitting out.
9:20 Walked around the house. Cursed a lot.
9:25 Sat in.
9:26 Accidentally donk posted blind+sb. asdghaJKDGJ!
9:27 MAD AT SELF FOR NOT FOLDING WHEN OBV BEATING NOTHING
9:30 Don't know how to win.
9:42 I do something really really really really really really dumb.
9:47 I 3bet air, they call, I 3bet aces they fold. I'm on tilt.
10:23 WTF am I doing? Stuck 6k.
10:27 Folded baby flush on 7high board after being c/r'd on river.Gonna quit soon.
1045: people don't fold AJo to me from the sb in 4bet pots. Why do they walk me everytime I have aces? i don't get it. someone help.
1055: I am not playing bad enough to be stuck 7buyins!!!!!!! 4 maybe. 7 no
11:00 In a 3bet pot 3 way pot I flop top set, turn is ofc worst card in deck and i bet/fold.
11:01 Very next hand I get kings, it comes ATTss, i lose the minimum to a turned straight, rivered flush.
11:03 Kings walked
11:05: I get it in Ak vs AQ and hold. Stuck 6.
11:06: I make an excellent 5bet with AQ.
11:09 I flop a boat with 89 on 889dd, it gets checked around, they check fold turn.
11:11 I 3bet Aces, it comes A9T, chk chk, he check folds brick turn.
11:18 I flopped TP+2nutflush draw 3ways, turned top 2 and managed to get it in!!111....too bad it was vs a set! FML but i riv the flush so shipitholla
11:19 I'm tired.
11:22 All I feel is pain all I see is rain
11:25 Hem says I'm calling too much pf. Wonder if they'll notice if i Nit up.
11:30 DIDNT I SAY I WASNT GOING TO PLAY LONG SESSIONS ANYMORE AND QUIT AFTER 4 BUYINS?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? <---------------------------------------------!!!!!!!!!
11:31 I hate my life
11:32 Busta Rhymes is awful
11:33 I play a hand terrible.
11:40 This is getting unreal. I 4bet AA pf, 64ss calls The flop comes A95cc, I lose a 100bb pot.How is this possible? If I didn't suck out with that flush vs set, I'd not have won a significant pot since AK vs AQ. I don't get it, I obv play terrible, but how do I play this terrible?
12:20 Tilt. -10k. Victory.
It's a win, it's a win!!!!!!!
Still 6 tabling, only stuck 3k! First day playing in 3 weeks.
OH SO RTSYU
scrabble.
Win.
Lose.
AA walked/blinds 7/9
KK walked/blinds 6/7
Coolered 23478923/5
Bad player lose the money.
How much do u wanna make it? I call u. Just tell me how much. Oh that much? Okay I fold.
Option B: Your wife and kids. I may regret winning this pot.
How has someone not killed me yet?
Why are you reading this blog and the non sense I write? What kind of a loser reads the blog of an even bigger loser? Look at you, you're pathetic.
Turn off your computer. Go outside. Do something.
OH SO RTSYU
scrabble.
Win.
Lose.
AA walked/blinds 7/9
KK walked/blinds 6/7
Coolered 23478923/5
Bad player lose the money.
How much do u wanna make it? I call u. Just tell me how much. Oh that much? Okay I fold.
Option B: Your wife and kids. I may regret winning this pot.
How has someone not killed me yet?
Why are you reading this blog and the non sense I write? What kind of a loser reads the blog of an even bigger loser? Look at you, you're pathetic.
Turn off your computer. Go outside. Do something.
Monday, March 08, 2010
A brief update
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Monday, February 22, 2010
Done With Live Poker! For Now!
Ok so I finished my live poker stint......
Recap, I played like 4 more tourneys afterwards, and I got burned out really bad, because the money wasn't that great.
So I will kinda start where I left off....
I busted 2 tourneys then played a HU event, 64 players max and it filled.
I win my 1st match, and my 2nd match.
3rd match round of 16, (which they paid 16 for some absurd reason) I play a fairly competent guy who limps in and bets every flop and seems to call every raise I make on him, and show down better almost every time or I would muck to another bet with air....
So I get extremely pissed and tilted at this guy.
I opened KK he flats flop Kh 3s 2d, he checks I lead he flats, turn is 10h he checks I lead he flats, river is 8h ( Kh 3s 2d 10h 8h) he checks I bet 1300 (we start with 6k) into about 2k he min raises but only puts 2500 out, and I call and before the dealer ships him the pot with his 2h6h I say his min raise had to go to 2600 not 2500 and I throw him the extra chip out of my stack (courtesy) and I have about 2500 now cause I opened up a lead early.
Ok SO I am now short, and about 10 hands later I make a bet on the river in a hand where I brick and throw my 500 chip out and announce 300, and he calls, the dealer ships him the pot and I ask for my change and I get no change because the dealer who is sitting 3 feet from me nor him heard me announce 300..... so we call floor over, I know what the ruling is going to be, but come on man I gave you the extra chip when you can not even make a correct raise out of courtesy and you think I am trying to scandal you???
So that tilted the fuck out of me we played for another 40 minutes where I squeezed for his BB and stole blinds from the BB and limped every button trying to connect one flop but failed and he beats me when my A9 loses to AQ but oh well.... I had a flash of rage in me when I didnt get my 200 back when I could have let the dealer ship him a short pot cause he is too stoooooopid to make a fucking minimum raise.
I decided that was my last tourney til the main happened. So I played cash games for the next 2 days.
Friday was really slow not one 5-10 holdem or 10-20 holdem snapped off.
So I played 1-2-5 PLO all day (1-2-5 with a rock, 1-2 blinds, 5 to come in, and the winner of the pot gets the rock (5 1$ chips taped together)
So say the cutoff wins the pot he gets the rock and leaves it out, then the hand is dealt, and the button starts the hand PF then goes around the table like that giving the rock the last action.
This sounds like a small game but it isn't, 300 is the minimum buyin which one or two seats will make, but this game had 25-30k on it when time started passing. You can buy in for however much you want.
I flopped the stones in this game 3 or 4 times in a 15 hand span vs 2 fish, and lost every single one of them, I had 9 8 5 6 with diamonds on a 2d 3d 4x board and cant fade A5XX with Ds when we get in on flop, flopped top set vs bottom set and gutshot and lost the pot, and another hand where I flopped a wrap and nut flush draw and lost to a bigger wrap.
So I tilted after this and tried to crack AAXX PF 3 times and failed (its not hard to find AAXX people play those face up.... so I just repotted PF every time and got it in for about 1k at a time and lost all 3, was stuck about 5k in the game at the low point, took a walk got off tilt came back played well sucked out once, not too bad, was 9 outs... and went on with my life got even made 500$ and went to sleep.
The next night we are playing 5-10 with a 25$ button straddle NL Holdem, this is a huge game... This game had 75-100k on it by nights end, and everyone seemed to be stacked 10-15k deep....
I played 2 interesting hands..... well 1 isn't interesting its kamikaze on me....
I have K2c on the button the C/O has been opening to 85-110 prob 30% of the hands, being very agg.
So I flat his raise in a 3way pot (he is about 7k deep)
Flop 7c 5d 2s
He leads 165 I make it 450 he makes it 950 and I flat
Turn is a 6h BUT WAIT, the dealer prematurely peeled this card so it goes back in, and they deal the river out then shuffle the turn back in.
So the turn is a Jh now
he leads 700 I make it 1900 and he flats.
River coming, 6h AGAIN!
C'man ship me a K or 2, I got rid of a dead card when I was going to brick 6h Jh and I go Jh 6h
So he checks and threatens that he isn't going anywhere...
So I move all in about 5 seconds after he says this and he snaps me with AA
Could not rep a set there, was about a 13-14k pot and I was stuck almost 10k.... sigh....
BUT Luckily I have history with a mega fish there and doubled up from 6500 to 13k
Long story short, fish leads flop and turn with Qs Jh on Qh 10h 7h board and I have AhJd
3h on riv unpaired board he bets approx same as he did on turn and I overship for like 4500 more and he tanks and calls.
Then I got sick value out of AA one hand, betting 3 streets on 10c 8c 6d 5d 7c and taking a little over 1200 that hand, but was very happy to bet river and get called by a mucking hand.
Ok so the interesting hand....
Utg opens to 100 mid flats and I have AK in the C/O and I make it 440$ and both flat.
flop Kd Jc 2h
Both check to me and I check
turn Qd
UTG leads out 700 mid folds and now its to me, and I take about 10 seconds in folding... This is an interesting hand to me for some reason....
I mean I know he can not lead the turn with air here, I have to be behind somehow, but what if a rag peels the turn? What if I bet the flop? I wasn't going to bet the flop here because we were all so damn deep and I had no intentions of playing a 1,000 BB pot with 1 pair like my friend with the AA, I planned on flatting turns or betting turns and possibly folding rivers. So not really an interesting hand, but he showed me KK so it seemed it could have been a disaster hand for me.
So I ended up breaking even in that game, stupid me to try to bluff a guy off AA..... I found out later the guy is worth like 100M owns a ton of car dealerships etc etc, information that would have been useful a little earlier....
The most fun part of this night though was we played "lodden thinks" idk where this game came from but I saw people in australia playing it and it was funny, so this kid sits down and he is just beligerantly drunk and it struck me that he would be the perfect Lodden...... He was the perfect Lodden and more...
So for anyone who doesn't know how to play, all it takes is 3 people, 2 people betting and 1 person answering the questions. The 2 people betting take turns asking Lodden the Qs
Example, I ask this kid what size waist he thinks someone at the table wears, he comes up with the answer in his head, the 2 people betting come up with what they think Lodden thinks, then we put our answers in our phone, Lodden tells us what he thought and whoever is closest wins.
We were asking the kid how many hands he played at the casino this week, he thought he played 4200 hands, we asked him what size waist one of the players had, the guy had a 34 waist the kid guessed 42, we asked him how much money was in my stack (i had 14k he guessed 5k) we asked him some other stuff I can't remember, none of the questions were out of line or anything we were just having fun, this kid could barely keep his head up....
So we ask him another Q and he stares me down, and says "How about we go outside and I beat your ass, how do you like that answer" the whole table busts up now, cause I am not a big guy, but this kid is a heck of a lot smaller than me... So he says this line about 5-10 times with laughter coming each time, then he apologizes to me, cause we know each other kinda, then he threatens me again then apologizes, then tries to figtht the biggest guy at the table... he takes a walk talked to some friends I guess and has a new line when he gets back.... He now keeps saying on top of the original line. "I am a grown ass man and I will take you outside and whip your ass if you keep fucking with my character" He keeps asking us if its funny, we say yes then he goes back to saying his lines... Was very comical.... He busted soon after, he only bought in for like 2k but it didn't last too long.
So I go home go to sleep and get up to play the 3k Main event.
So I get to the main event and play for 2 hours, I pick up a few pots go from the 15k start stack to 20k, then I get a cooler vs a fish, but I probably could have salvaged some chips... but I am too agg, and want to stack people every hand I played.
I have AhKd and open the button 3x to 100, SB makes it 1300, BB flats I flat, I wish I had folded here, but... I mean in normal tourneys online, my hand is probably a ship 95% of the time, but people don't 3bet light in live tourneys around here, mostly fish.... though the SB was a really good player.
Well flop is Kh Qh 3d
SB checks BB bets 2k I flat SB folds
Turn is a 5h BB bets 3k I ship he calls off 9k more with QQ and I brick the river.
I could have folded my hand PF, I could have folded it on the flop, I could have folded on the turn, though I think I have to flat the turn at this point with a heart draw. But I could have mucked my hand twice for sure, and even the turn I should be mucking, but was 3k to call into 11k when he has 9k behind.... Basically I am a fish and didn't want to play I guess....
So I came home to play online, and I am getting back to work, I have a lot of work to to make up some losses from Australia and here.... Gonna be a long couple months especially with no action on PDC, been planted at HU tables for 6 hours now without a bite.
One more funny thing about the main, I had an over under bet with a guy for 500$, whether or not there would be 60+ players, 59 or less he won 61 or more I won, and 60 meant we flipped a coin for the 500$...
They take late registration for 1 hour, about 40 minutes in its at 59 players has been stuck on 59 for about 20-30 minutes now, and low and behold the guy I bet with comes and sits down next to me with ticket #60 haha and 60 holds and we flip a coin and I won the flip.
There you go a long terrible update
When I get around to it I will post pics of my new house, my poker setup etc cause I said I would and I have been lazy thus far in doing so. I will promise that in my next post
Recap, I played like 4 more tourneys afterwards, and I got burned out really bad, because the money wasn't that great.
So I will kinda start where I left off....
I busted 2 tourneys then played a HU event, 64 players max and it filled.
I win my 1st match, and my 2nd match.
3rd match round of 16, (which they paid 16 for some absurd reason) I play a fairly competent guy who limps in and bets every flop and seems to call every raise I make on him, and show down better almost every time or I would muck to another bet with air....
So I get extremely pissed and tilted at this guy.
I opened KK he flats flop Kh 3s 2d, he checks I lead he flats, turn is 10h he checks I lead he flats, river is 8h ( Kh 3s 2d 10h 8h) he checks I bet 1300 (we start with 6k) into about 2k he min raises but only puts 2500 out, and I call and before the dealer ships him the pot with his 2h6h I say his min raise had to go to 2600 not 2500 and I throw him the extra chip out of my stack (courtesy) and I have about 2500 now cause I opened up a lead early.
Ok SO I am now short, and about 10 hands later I make a bet on the river in a hand where I brick and throw my 500 chip out and announce 300, and he calls, the dealer ships him the pot and I ask for my change and I get no change because the dealer who is sitting 3 feet from me nor him heard me announce 300..... so we call floor over, I know what the ruling is going to be, but come on man I gave you the extra chip when you can not even make a correct raise out of courtesy and you think I am trying to scandal you???
So that tilted the fuck out of me we played for another 40 minutes where I squeezed for his BB and stole blinds from the BB and limped every button trying to connect one flop but failed and he beats me when my A9 loses to AQ but oh well.... I had a flash of rage in me when I didnt get my 200 back when I could have let the dealer ship him a short pot cause he is too stoooooopid to make a fucking minimum raise.
I decided that was my last tourney til the main happened. So I played cash games for the next 2 days.
Friday was really slow not one 5-10 holdem or 10-20 holdem snapped off.
So I played 1-2-5 PLO all day (1-2-5 with a rock, 1-2 blinds, 5 to come in, and the winner of the pot gets the rock (5 1$ chips taped together)
So say the cutoff wins the pot he gets the rock and leaves it out, then the hand is dealt, and the button starts the hand PF then goes around the table like that giving the rock the last action.
This sounds like a small game but it isn't, 300 is the minimum buyin which one or two seats will make, but this game had 25-30k on it when time started passing. You can buy in for however much you want.
I flopped the stones in this game 3 or 4 times in a 15 hand span vs 2 fish, and lost every single one of them, I had 9 8 5 6 with diamonds on a 2d 3d 4x board and cant fade A5XX with Ds when we get in on flop, flopped top set vs bottom set and gutshot and lost the pot, and another hand where I flopped a wrap and nut flush draw and lost to a bigger wrap.
So I tilted after this and tried to crack AAXX PF 3 times and failed (its not hard to find AAXX people play those face up.... so I just repotted PF every time and got it in for about 1k at a time and lost all 3, was stuck about 5k in the game at the low point, took a walk got off tilt came back played well sucked out once, not too bad, was 9 outs... and went on with my life got even made 500$ and went to sleep.
The next night we are playing 5-10 with a 25$ button straddle NL Holdem, this is a huge game... This game had 75-100k on it by nights end, and everyone seemed to be stacked 10-15k deep....
I played 2 interesting hands..... well 1 isn't interesting its kamikaze on me....
I have K2c on the button the C/O has been opening to 85-110 prob 30% of the hands, being very agg.
So I flat his raise in a 3way pot (he is about 7k deep)
Flop 7c 5d 2s
He leads 165 I make it 450 he makes it 950 and I flat
Turn is a 6h BUT WAIT, the dealer prematurely peeled this card so it goes back in, and they deal the river out then shuffle the turn back in.
So the turn is a Jh now
he leads 700 I make it 1900 and he flats.
River coming, 6h AGAIN!
C'man ship me a K or 2, I got rid of a dead card when I was going to brick 6h Jh and I go Jh 6h
So he checks and threatens that he isn't going anywhere...
So I move all in about 5 seconds after he says this and he snaps me with AA
Could not rep a set there, was about a 13-14k pot and I was stuck almost 10k.... sigh....
BUT Luckily I have history with a mega fish there and doubled up from 6500 to 13k
Long story short, fish leads flop and turn with Qs Jh on Qh 10h 7h board and I have AhJd
3h on riv unpaired board he bets approx same as he did on turn and I overship for like 4500 more and he tanks and calls.
Then I got sick value out of AA one hand, betting 3 streets on 10c 8c 6d 5d 7c and taking a little over 1200 that hand, but was very happy to bet river and get called by a mucking hand.
Ok so the interesting hand....
Utg opens to 100 mid flats and I have AK in the C/O and I make it 440$ and both flat.
flop Kd Jc 2h
Both check to me and I check
turn Qd
UTG leads out 700 mid folds and now its to me, and I take about 10 seconds in folding... This is an interesting hand to me for some reason....
I mean I know he can not lead the turn with air here, I have to be behind somehow, but what if a rag peels the turn? What if I bet the flop? I wasn't going to bet the flop here because we were all so damn deep and I had no intentions of playing a 1,000 BB pot with 1 pair like my friend with the AA, I planned on flatting turns or betting turns and possibly folding rivers. So not really an interesting hand, but he showed me KK so it seemed it could have been a disaster hand for me.
So I ended up breaking even in that game, stupid me to try to bluff a guy off AA..... I found out later the guy is worth like 100M owns a ton of car dealerships etc etc, information that would have been useful a little earlier....
The most fun part of this night though was we played "lodden thinks" idk where this game came from but I saw people in australia playing it and it was funny, so this kid sits down and he is just beligerantly drunk and it struck me that he would be the perfect Lodden...... He was the perfect Lodden and more...
So for anyone who doesn't know how to play, all it takes is 3 people, 2 people betting and 1 person answering the questions. The 2 people betting take turns asking Lodden the Qs
Example, I ask this kid what size waist he thinks someone at the table wears, he comes up with the answer in his head, the 2 people betting come up with what they think Lodden thinks, then we put our answers in our phone, Lodden tells us what he thought and whoever is closest wins.
We were asking the kid how many hands he played at the casino this week, he thought he played 4200 hands, we asked him what size waist one of the players had, the guy had a 34 waist the kid guessed 42, we asked him how much money was in my stack (i had 14k he guessed 5k) we asked him some other stuff I can't remember, none of the questions were out of line or anything we were just having fun, this kid could barely keep his head up....
So we ask him another Q and he stares me down, and says "How about we go outside and I beat your ass, how do you like that answer" the whole table busts up now, cause I am not a big guy, but this kid is a heck of a lot smaller than me... So he says this line about 5-10 times with laughter coming each time, then he apologizes to me, cause we know each other kinda, then he threatens me again then apologizes, then tries to figtht the biggest guy at the table... he takes a walk talked to some friends I guess and has a new line when he gets back.... He now keeps saying on top of the original line. "I am a grown ass man and I will take you outside and whip your ass if you keep fucking with my character" He keeps asking us if its funny, we say yes then he goes back to saying his lines... Was very comical.... He busted soon after, he only bought in for like 2k but it didn't last too long.
So I go home go to sleep and get up to play the 3k Main event.
So I get to the main event and play for 2 hours, I pick up a few pots go from the 15k start stack to 20k, then I get a cooler vs a fish, but I probably could have salvaged some chips... but I am too agg, and want to stack people every hand I played.
I have AhKd and open the button 3x to 100, SB makes it 1300, BB flats I flat, I wish I had folded here, but... I mean in normal tourneys online, my hand is probably a ship 95% of the time, but people don't 3bet light in live tourneys around here, mostly fish.... though the SB was a really good player.
Well flop is Kh Qh 3d
SB checks BB bets 2k I flat SB folds
Turn is a 5h BB bets 3k I ship he calls off 9k more with QQ and I brick the river.
I could have folded my hand PF, I could have folded it on the flop, I could have folded on the turn, though I think I have to flat the turn at this point with a heart draw. But I could have mucked my hand twice for sure, and even the turn I should be mucking, but was 3k to call into 11k when he has 9k behind.... Basically I am a fish and didn't want to play I guess....
So I came home to play online, and I am getting back to work, I have a lot of work to to make up some losses from Australia and here.... Gonna be a long couple months especially with no action on PDC, been planted at HU tables for 6 hours now without a bite.
One more funny thing about the main, I had an over under bet with a guy for 500$, whether or not there would be 60+ players, 59 or less he won 61 or more I won, and 60 meant we flipped a coin for the 500$...
They take late registration for 1 hour, about 40 minutes in its at 59 players has been stuck on 59 for about 20-30 minutes now, and low and behold the guy I bet with comes and sits down next to me with ticket #60 haha and 60 holds and we flip a coin and I won the flip.
There you go a long terrible update
When I get around to it I will post pics of my new house, my poker setup etc cause I said I would and I have been lazy thus far in doing so. I will promise that in my next post
Saturday, February 20, 2010
Something has to change.
Okay.
I've had enough. I am sick of myself and I am sick of going on idiotic tilt 3 times a month and cutting my monthly profits in half. Every year I throw away 150k doing this.
Last night I played worse than I have all year or maybe ever. It was so bad, it was almost unbelievable. I literally got smashed in the face with the deck and managed to LOSE 30K!!!!!
HOW DO I DO THAT?!
And it all boils down to the same thing I have always said not to do that I keep doing.
1. Playing when extremely tired/falling asleep.
2. Playing insanely long sessions.
3. Playing on tilt.
4. Not having a stop loss.
5. Not being able to walk away with a losing session.
I can't do this anymore. I either need to change this or I need to quit poker.
I am very serious. How long can I continue to be self destructive and turn hard work and grueling hours of grinding into misery because I am stuck 3 buyins and don't want to book a losing session? Sure there are times when I pull it together and get it back, but there are times that the wheels fall off completely and I end up spewing for no reason.
Sometimes my brain just turns off.
So here we are and this is that crucial point people have in their careers: I will either over come this flaw or I will quit.
1. I will NOT play when I am tired or not feeling it. I don't care who's playing. I don't care if the biggest fish in the world is playing 5 buy ins deep. If I don't want to play, if I am tired, if I am on tilt, I WILL NOT PLAY. The end. Absolutely no questions. No desire = no game.
1a. There is a good chance, considering I hate poker, I will never again want to play...or not want to play often enough...in this case, I will designate X hours, when I am feeling good and thinking clearly to play.
2. I will quit whenever I feel like I am going to tilt. if I do not recover in 20 minutes or less, I will walk away. No questions asked. If I do not walk away when I am tilting, I will send Dudu $100 for every hour I play on tilt.
3. I am designating a 4 buyin stop loss for any game 5-10+ and a 5 buyin stop loss for any game 3-6 and below.
4. I will not play more than 6 hours a day.
4a. If I am focused and calm, I may play 8 hours.
5. I will try to play shorter sessions. Ideally, I will break the sessions down into either 3 2 hour sessions or 2 3 hour sessions.
6. I will invoke SOME game selection. Instead of playing tough or semi tough opponents when there is no action, I will spend as much time as I can stomach reviewing my play and studying the game away from the tables.
7. I will try to play at least 30 minutes a day of PLO.
8. I will balance out my life by returning to both weight training and kick boxing. Poker will not interfere with either of these activities.
9. I will not alienate my friends during hardcore poker binges - which will be coming to a stop.
10. I will not be a complete retard tilting moron.
If this list is not completed and this tilt issue is not COMPLETELY fixed by WSOP time...If I still go on crazy sick spew sessions...it will be my last WSOP and I will quit poker.
I spend way too many hours and way too much time playing to just tilt my profits away. If I can't do this, I'll...I don't know...go write brothel reviews or something.
I may take the next few weeks off, I don't know.
Whatever the case is...I am very unhappy with myself. Here's hoping that I am not as dumb as I think I am and can overcome this.
Good luck me.
J
I've had enough. I am sick of myself and I am sick of going on idiotic tilt 3 times a month and cutting my monthly profits in half. Every year I throw away 150k doing this.
Last night I played worse than I have all year or maybe ever. It was so bad, it was almost unbelievable. I literally got smashed in the face with the deck and managed to LOSE 30K!!!!!
HOW DO I DO THAT?!
And it all boils down to the same thing I have always said not to do that I keep doing.
1. Playing when extremely tired/falling asleep.
2. Playing insanely long sessions.
3. Playing on tilt.
4. Not having a stop loss.
5. Not being able to walk away with a losing session.
I can't do this anymore. I either need to change this or I need to quit poker.
I am very serious. How long can I continue to be self destructive and turn hard work and grueling hours of grinding into misery because I am stuck 3 buyins and don't want to book a losing session? Sure there are times when I pull it together and get it back, but there are times that the wheels fall off completely and I end up spewing for no reason.
Sometimes my brain just turns off.
So here we are and this is that crucial point people have in their careers: I will either over come this flaw or I will quit.
1. I will NOT play when I am tired or not feeling it. I don't care who's playing. I don't care if the biggest fish in the world is playing 5 buy ins deep. If I don't want to play, if I am tired, if I am on tilt, I WILL NOT PLAY. The end. Absolutely no questions. No desire = no game.
1a. There is a good chance, considering I hate poker, I will never again want to play...or not want to play often enough...in this case, I will designate X hours, when I am feeling good and thinking clearly to play.
2. I will quit whenever I feel like I am going to tilt. if I do not recover in 20 minutes or less, I will walk away. No questions asked. If I do not walk away when I am tilting, I will send Dudu $100 for every hour I play on tilt.
3. I am designating a 4 buyin stop loss for any game 5-10+ and a 5 buyin stop loss for any game 3-6 and below.
4. I will not play more than 6 hours a day.
4a. If I am focused and calm, I may play 8 hours.
5. I will try to play shorter sessions. Ideally, I will break the sessions down into either 3 2 hour sessions or 2 3 hour sessions.
6. I will invoke SOME game selection. Instead of playing tough or semi tough opponents when there is no action, I will spend as much time as I can stomach reviewing my play and studying the game away from the tables.
7. I will try to play at least 30 minutes a day of PLO.
8. I will balance out my life by returning to both weight training and kick boxing. Poker will not interfere with either of these activities.
9. I will not alienate my friends during hardcore poker binges - which will be coming to a stop.
10. I will not be a complete retard tilting moron.
If this list is not completed and this tilt issue is not COMPLETELY fixed by WSOP time...If I still go on crazy sick spew sessions...it will be my last WSOP and I will quit poker.
I spend way too many hours and way too much time playing to just tilt my profits away. If I can't do this, I'll...I don't know...go write brothel reviews or something.
I may take the next few weeks off, I don't know.
Whatever the case is...I am very unhappy with myself. Here's hoping that I am not as dumb as I think I am and can overcome this.
Good luck me.
J
I am retarded.
Promise to explain fully later when I am not on insanity tilt. I swear I am dumb. I cannot even understand. Why I am so dumb but I am just dumb.
That is my life. I am an idiot.
I don't learn. Only idiots never learn.
That is my life. I am an idiot.
I don't learn. Only idiots never learn.
Monday, February 15, 2010
Day 3 (of 11) of Aussie Punishment, Sick Slide Graph, Very Little Bitching?
First off this is my graph of headsup play since about November.... November, December, they went well, I was up about 55k? Running neutral EV.... (incase you dont understand these graphs, the thick green line is profit, the thin one is my "expected value" (expected all in value) So this is where I should be... Now I admit, I could cut down some of the losses from tilt.... I do tilt bad sometimes. But it is just the sickest thing ever. The downslide started about 12-13k hands ago, and I lose 100K????? Running over 50k below EV???? Tilting a bunch off because it is happening so fucking quickly????? WTF!!!!!
So my PDC roll is a little lighter now and it sucks....
I have been grinding slowly at FTP and PS, and almost decided to quit, I have an "hourly" of over 110$ an hour at 1-2 on both sites but you can't do that all day long. I have 16-20 tables loaded and it just wears you out, I play an hour then I quit. I go dick off on PS3 or something else for a couple hours and then decide I still am not looking forward to playing again so I don't. If I ever feel the need to make 1k a week for the rest of my life, I know where I will do it. But I have bigger ambitions of course, as I promised to make 350k this year but I am starting about 110k in the hole so this is going to be difficult now. I have faith though, luckbox a tourney and I am gold.

So my PDC roll is a little lighter now and it sucks....
I have been grinding slowly at FTP and PS, and almost decided to quit, I have an "hourly" of over 110$ an hour at 1-2 on both sites but you can't do that all day long. I have 16-20 tables loaded and it just wears you out, I play an hour then I quit. I go dick off on PS3 or something else for a couple hours and then decide I still am not looking forward to playing again so I don't. If I ever feel the need to make 1k a week for the rest of my life, I know where I will do it. But I have bigger ambitions of course, as I promised to make 350k this year but I am starting about 110k in the hole so this is going to be difficult now. I have faith though, luckbox a tourney and I am gold.

So I decided for punishment for the way I treated the trip to the Aussie Millions I would play all 11 of the Oklahoma State Championships of Poker events.
Day 1 was PLO, I cashed (kinda fluked, 131 entrants, 14 pay, we were round for round and I busted 15th but someone busted behind me so we chopped 14th... profit of 15$ off my 340$) (total play, 11 hours) (+2 hours on cash before the tourney, lost 1300$ playing 2-5)
Day 2, NLH 100k guaranteed. This event drew over 800 players somehow, I finished 20th for 1600$ profit of 1300$, sigh... time played, 15 hours
Day 3, just got home, was Limit O8, 92 entries, 10 pay, I get 10th.... lost a couple pots late, somehow cashed.... Had one big blind when we sat down with 10 left... time played 12 hours
Tomorrow, PLO8
All buyins are 340$
So why is this punishment? Well because other than the 800 player NLH I dont think a single tourney will pay over 20k to winner. As if I am going to win one, but hey atleast I have cashed all 3, kinda.
I am doing it as kind of "training" to be able to play long hours day in and day out live, and not have the luxury of my PS3 or cable tv or couch to nap or go eat when I want to etc etc. I have treated every live poker trip I have ever made very poorly, and I am starting to reallize how much money I have pissed away doing that. It is terrible the way I go on trips for poker, I go get super drunk play table games, give money away playing poker, strip clubs etc etc, and I am finally realizing how important it is to treat poker more like a "business" and not a hobby considering I dropped out of school to play poker and this has been my source of income for 5 years in May and I want it to be my source of income for atleast 5-10 more years.
Live poker typically is a vacation for me, even if it is close to home, it is a chance to get out of the house socialize with people who have the same ambitions (of being a degenerate gambler as such I guess) and obviously typically get hammered drunk.
I have not had anything to drink other than a couple redbull and vodkas (despite the fact I hate them) to keep me awake the first day since I was coming off my fucked up sleep schedule.
So 8 more days, it is a grind, I won't make much money unless I get top 3 in the main event they have which is a 3k buyin.
The reason I probably decided to punish myself, they are giving 5k to whoever accumulates the most points during the series of events, and I am going to win it.... Though I was told tonight how they are "supposedly" keeping the points, and it is fucked, but I will still win I think thanks to the deep run in the 800 player field. Basically you get 1 point for entering the tourney, and 1 point more for every place "inside the money" you get. So the 800 player field payed 72 places, winner gets 73 points, I got 53 points, so catching him is very doable if I get top 3 in a couple of the small fields. Since I don't think any other tourney is paying more than 20 spots, it could actually backfire, hopefully not though, I have cashed all 3 so I am playing well for the most part. Another incentive, you get a RING!!!!!!!! Which I can wear when I am wearing my HPT Jacket!!!!!!! Or just put the ring in the pocket of the HPT Jacket and hang it deep in my closet.
Ummmm other than that, nothing else to say.... Hopefully I don't snap before this ends, and hopefully I gain some valuable attributes to help myself when I go to play poker out of town. Turning away cocktails for water is so tough to do but getting easier for me.... I am such a lush....
Thursday, February 11, 2010
I am so sick of FT.
How is it every session I play I am stuck 5k with a positive adjusted ev? So great.
So a few days ago I finally snapped and went on world famous Jay Tilt and turned what was a +10k month on FT into a -4k month. Great. So now I hate myself.
So after tilting off what was going to pay my bills, I decided to take a break. Of course, that only lasts until I open the software, see a donk at 10-20 and lose 2 coin flips to him. Then he leaves and the game breaks. This is followed up by fish coming to play heads up, who sucks out, wins some flips, coolers me, etc. Wins 2 buyins, leaves. Then this fish is either replaced by a nitty reg or someone who's actually good. Nitty reg will quit unless I spew to him, good player will annoy me because I'm already annoyed at having to play a good player after fish keep leaving. FJHDFJKSDHFJKHDJF
On an amusing side, many of the regs are pretty bad with more leaks than dudu after he's eaten an eigth of psychedelic mushrooms and snorted 5 lines of meth.
So I'm stuck like 7-8k at fullofshitpoker now. Great.
I guess I ran good there at some point in my life (although I do not remember this) and am now paying for it. Wonderful. Please, more of this. MORE I SAY.
So a few days ago I finally snapped and went on world famous Jay Tilt and turned what was a +10k month on FT into a -4k month. Great. So now I hate myself.
So after tilting off what was going to pay my bills, I decided to take a break. Of course, that only lasts until I open the software, see a donk at 10-20 and lose 2 coin flips to him. Then he leaves and the game breaks. This is followed up by fish coming to play heads up, who sucks out, wins some flips, coolers me, etc. Wins 2 buyins, leaves. Then this fish is either replaced by a nitty reg or someone who's actually good. Nitty reg will quit unless I spew to him, good player will annoy me because I'm already annoyed at having to play a good player after fish keep leaving. FJHDFJKSDHFJKHDJF
On an amusing side, many of the regs are pretty bad with more leaks than dudu after he's eaten an eigth of psychedelic mushrooms and snorted 5 lines of meth.
So I'm stuck like 7-8k at fullofshitpoker now. Great.
I guess I ran good there at some point in my life (although I do not remember this) and am now paying for it. Wonderful. Please, more of this. MORE I SAY.
Tuesday, February 09, 2010
Pulling My Hair Out!
Ok so I am just in Jerry mode again, I run like shit vs Jerry, even though he is a bad PLO player, I can't even explain how many bad spots I got into with Jerry or the guy I just finished playing at 5-10 but I lost an arm and a leg, I have like one more deep session in my PDC acct before I have to drop and rebuild.... I am so so so tilted right now....
My HEM isn't running so I can't see how far below EV I am running last few days but my favorite hand played today was vs a fish at 5-10 PLO HU
I have 3 4 5 6 double soooted
We are about 3500 deep each (well I was covering him, but this hand turned it around)
I open, he 3bets to 90 I 4bet to 270 he makes it 810, I flat.
Flop THE NUTS
2 3 5 with 2 spades, I have no spades....
He checks, I bet like 1200, he ships I call
he has A 10 9 5 with no spade draw......
Board is 2 3 5.....
5.........
9........
Ship almost 7k to him
I tilt and get coolered more, will admit I was building big pots with marginal hands but..... I was still getting coolered ridiculously.
Towards the end of my session the guy I am playing is literally doubling me with TPTK in PLO and beating my ass.... All I need is 2 pair and I double up, then I make a set or something and start jamming and he backdoors something crazy that I give him no credit for having because he is paying me off so light I keep jamming into his backdoored nuts after he doubles me, so I go 100bb to 200bb then coolered then repeat...... yay
I am just proud of myself for not breaking anything during this session, I was punching my mouse to fold for a bit.
My HEM isn't running so I can't see how far below EV I am running last few days but my favorite hand played today was vs a fish at 5-10 PLO HU
I have 3 4 5 6 double soooted
We are about 3500 deep each (well I was covering him, but this hand turned it around)
I open, he 3bets to 90 I 4bet to 270 he makes it 810, I flat.
Flop THE NUTS
2 3 5 with 2 spades, I have no spades....
He checks, I bet like 1200, he ships I call
he has A 10 9 5 with no spade draw......
Board is 2 3 5.....
5.........
9........
Ship almost 7k to him
I tilt and get coolered more, will admit I was building big pots with marginal hands but..... I was still getting coolered ridiculously.
Towards the end of my session the guy I am playing is literally doubling me with TPTK in PLO and beating my ass.... All I need is 2 pair and I double up, then I make a set or something and start jamming and he backdoors something crazy that I give him no credit for having because he is paying me off so light I keep jamming into his backdoored nuts after he doubles me, so I go 100bb to 200bb then coolered then repeat...... yay
I am just proud of myself for not breaking anything during this session, I was punching my mouse to fold for a bit.
Sunday, February 07, 2010
FU FTP
Played 6k hands straight to finish stuck 3500 with an adjusted ev of +6k. Absolutely fantastic.
This is how I'm running:
SB: $738.00
Hero (BB): $1338.00
BTN: $1015.00
Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero is BB with 7
8
1 fold, SB raises to $20, Hero calls $10
Flop: ($40.00) 6
9
5
(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $25, SB raises to $50, Hero raises to $145, SB raises to $240, Hero raises to $1318 all in, SB calls $478 all in
Turn: ($1476.00) 9
(2 players - 2 are all in)
River: ($1476.00) 6
(2 players - 2 are all in)
Final Pot: $1476.00
SB shows K
9
(a full house, Nines full of Sixes)
Hero shows 7
8
(a straight, Nine high)
SB wins $1475.00
(Rake: $1.00)
Played fairly badly for half the session tho...got into some ugly spots that should have been avoided and some folds should have been made. Played really well the other 50% of the time.
Play grade: B+
Slowrolling - as far as I'm concerned there's no such thing as slow rolling in online poker 99% of the time. I've been falsely accused of slowrolling in the past, the truth is I was just busy multitabling. So because someone doesn't insta call you with the nuts, doesn't mean they're slowrolling you...they could be busy elsewhere. Sometimes, you might even hit time bank just to slow the action down. For example, lets say you're playing 6 tables and you have a tough decision to make on 2 or 3 of them and a simple call with aces on another, you might hit the timebank just to buy yourself some time between hands to focus on the two tough decisions you have. Plus even if people aren't multitabling, they could be busy watching tv, surfing the web, chatting on AIM or whatever.
On the other hand, if it is quite obvious they are slowrolling you on purpose, proceed to rules of engagement.
J
This is how I'm running:
SB: $738.00
Hero (BB): $1338.00
BTN: $1015.00
Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero is BB with 7
1 fold, SB raises to $20, Hero calls $10
Flop: ($40.00) 6
SB checks, Hero bets $25, SB raises to $50, Hero raises to $145, SB raises to $240, Hero raises to $1318 all in, SB calls $478 all in
Turn: ($1476.00) 9
River: ($1476.00) 6
Final Pot: $1476.00
SB shows K
Hero shows 7
SB wins $1475.00
(Rake: $1.00)
Played fairly badly for half the session tho...got into some ugly spots that should have been avoided and some folds should have been made. Played really well the other 50% of the time.
Play grade: B+
Slowrolling - as far as I'm concerned there's no such thing as slow rolling in online poker 99% of the time. I've been falsely accused of slowrolling in the past, the truth is I was just busy multitabling. So because someone doesn't insta call you with the nuts, doesn't mean they're slowrolling you...they could be busy elsewhere. Sometimes, you might even hit time bank just to slow the action down. For example, lets say you're playing 6 tables and you have a tough decision to make on 2 or 3 of them and a simple call with aces on another, you might hit the timebank just to buy yourself some time between hands to focus on the two tough decisions you have. Plus even if people aren't multitabling, they could be busy watching tv, surfing the web, chatting on AIM or whatever.
On the other hand, if it is quite obvious they are slowrolling you on purpose, proceed to rules of engagement.
J
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